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Following up on the conversation we were having before in Phoebe's journal:

I actually have reason to believe there is a force or forces at work to keep most of the non-supernatural population from noticing the supernatural. There have been a number of large-scale disasters in the past that were clearly of supernatural origin--the destruction of the Conrad Hotel, for one, and the Ten Plagues that occurred in the fall of 2009, for another--but most of the residents of the city just can't seem to even consider the possibility of a supernatural origin for these events. Occurrences such as rivers of blood and frogs falling from the sky violate a number of laws of nature as we know them, but while non-supernaturals will notice and react to the events as they are happening, only few days later they seem to have almost forgotten.

Unfortunately, when the other residents of the city do notice what's going on, there is often a violent backlash, leading to the rise of terrorist groups such as the CLF. It's all to easy for people try to blame supernatural occurrences on the supernatural community. The fact that many people don't recognize us for what we are actually gives us a degree of safety, odd as it may sound.

Date: 2011-01-10 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophicsulphur.livejournal.com
I see. Thank you. Again, it's helpful to hear these things from the perspective of someone who's more familiar with the situation.

What I'm concerned about, I guess, is that we may be safe, but only for as long as we live a lie, pretending to be something that we're not. Non-human people can't even walk the streets without putting up an illusion of being human, right? That seems unfair-- it's like if every gay person had to pretend they were straight to be safe. You can create an illusion, but isn't that like admitting that what people like the CLF feel is right: that we're a shameful thing that should be hidden?

And even if that does help us in the short term-- even if it's easier to hide than it is to face the CLF and the root of the problems that create them-- I guess it feels like we're only getting ourselves hurt more in the long term, aren't we? Because if we don't tackle what the average person in this world feels about supernaturals, then every time someone does notice, we get groups like the CLF. I think that in the short term we're safer, but to be really safe in the long run, we need to fight the feelings out amongst people that are making them treat supernaturals like this in the first place.

Because of that, I'd like to do something. In the same way that gay people have a pride movement, I want to create one for supernaturals too. Right now I think that we can't be proud of ourselves or even show ourselves in public, and I don't want to live like that or have my friends live like that. It isn't fair, and I want to change people's minds.

Date: 2011-01-10 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophicsulphur.livejournal.com
I suppose it does, yes. And I wasn't thinking that we should make anything really public, just yet. To be honest with you, I was already talking to Jim Kirk about this and he gave me some thoughts that helped me understand why it can't be public to start with. I know a lot of people could get hurt.

But also there's a difference between being completely public and only talking to your friends, right? The things I was thinking of starting with were things like talking to other people who are already part of the supernatural community, and helping them understand that they deserve to have rights and be protected. Like we were thinking of starting a magazine and also support groups. It'd be for supernaturals and Wanderers only, but it would give people a sense that their identity is something they should be fighting for, while also not putting them at risk.

And as for things with fangs and fur and scales falling through and attacking people... that's true. But also, some of our worst murderers look like any ordinary person on the street. Like the man in the CLF video. Any given human-looking person is as likely to be as dangerous as any monster, because there are people in both classes who are harmless and also people in both who are very harmful, so that's another fear that isn't rational. And we should try making people think about that, maybe?

It's good to know the history of things. And I agree that we definitely need a united front. Also, I do try to be careful about telling people I'm a Wanderer. [...For completely different reasons, the narration would like to add.] Usually, I only tell people who I know are supernaturals or Wanderers already.

So do you think that that's a good idea? Starting by trying to do things within the supernatural community itself to make people more aware that we should be doing something about this?

Date: 2011-01-10 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophicsulphur.livejournal.com
[...Mio knows Iris too well. Slow and careful are not really words in her vocabulary. But for others' sakes, she'll try.]

Okay, that all makes sense. I've been thinking of holding some kind of meeting soon, I'm not sure whether in person or over the journals, to discuss these things. Like where we're going to get the money for any of this. I would very much appreciate it if you'd share your thoughts at that meeting too, though I understand you're very busy. It just seems like you know a lot.

But yeah, it seems like we have two ways to look at things so far, right? We can help people within the supernatural community and we can also try very carefully talking to people we know who are "normal" humans. Sort of a two-pronged attack. I imagine if we make people in the supernatural community more confident about themselves, they'll also be more likely to want to explain things to a friend, right?

So yeah, I'll definitely bring all of this up when we have the meeting. You've been really helpful; thanks so much!

Date: 2011-01-11 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophicsulphur.livejournal.com
Hmm, you're right. I didn't think about that, sorry.

A word for them.... Yeah, we should come up with something like that. It's kind of hard, though, isn't it? If you think about it, the difference between the supernatural population and everyone else is that they have something... well, supernatural about them. Because we came through the Rift, or have some magical power, or such. So the word to describe everyone else seems like it should be "natural" or "normal", but that doesn't work.

Maybe we need to make up a completely new word, like "straight"... well, I guess when you think about it, "straight" also implies ordinary, doesn't it? Like, staying on a straight path? Are there any other word pairs out there that we can look at the patterns of to see how they work and get some ideas, maybe? Ones that have been used for different groups like this, that don't sound bad?

Date: 2011-01-11 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophicsulphur.livejournal.com
I'll add it to my list of things to bring up. We should certainly raise it to everyone to see who has ideas. I'm glad you thought of it.
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